Interviewer: Finally, in a different kind of vein, will be readings by Jeri Cain Rossi, reading from her just published novel, she’ll be signing it too: “Nick Zedd a Genius.” Yeah, alright and GG Allin is down here right now. We’ll be talking with…
GG Allin: GG Allin’s a genius too. Nobody wants to admit it. [Mixed with interviewer, 2 seconds]
Interviewer: GG Allin’s a genius? Yeah alright, well GG to be honest, I think Nick Zedd’s a fool. Whatever a phony, not like you, the real thing.
GG: That’s right.
Interviewer: Okay that’s at the Primal Plunge book store at 8 o’ clock. GG?
GG: Yeah, I’m here.
Interviewer: Tonight, I guess you’re going to be doing readings. This is…
GG: Yeah well I just wanted to make it clear, it’s like a Nick Zedd and Jeri Cain Rossi, going to be I don’t know what they’re going to do, but my stuff is not really poetry or fiction. The stuff that I’ve written is more like what I’ve been through, what I’m going through, and what I’m going to go through up until October 31st 1990. It’s more going to be like a reality reading, more than like a fictional thing. It’s going to be stuff that I’m just going to be you know going into my own mind on the spot. Reading a little bit, just kind of getting into my own mind, whatever I feel like doing basically.
Interviewer: Okay. Why until 1990?
GG: What’s that?
Interviewer: Why until 1990?
GG: Oh, that’s the day that I plan to commit suicide on stage.
Interviewer: Have you set that up yet, booked it or anything?
GG: I haven’t booked it, but it will happen and I want to say that the people at the Spilar were completely way the fuck off base in what they were writing. When GG Allin says he’s going to do something then you know he’s going to do it. The thing is I’ve never ever said that I was going to do it before and they got this thing where you know GG’s crying “wolf” again and that’s total bullshit. I mean I have, for the last thirteen years when people say how are you probably going to die? I said I will probably die on stage, but I’ve never exactly set a day, now I set a day and when I set a day, I’m going to do it, you know I’m going to do it. I mean everything that I do on stage is reality.
Interviewer: I believe you.
GG: You know it’s not phoney, and it’s not bullshit. The only reason why people are so down on me now is because talk is cheap, and i’m actually doing it. I’m actually creating a war in the underground and I want to start a war in the underground. I want people to leave my shows feeling like you know they hate my guts or somebody got hurt or you know. Like it’s a battle line there on the edge of the stage, if they cross over, if I cross over, you know anything can happen. You know everything has become too safe now. I mean there really is in my mind, no underground at all. So I’m trying to bring that reality of hatred and you know people getting their noses broken or you know just complete fucking chaos and..
Interviewer: You’re talking about the physical stuff and not just saying it.
GG: Right, the physical stuff. I mean, I haven’t played in Boston in eight years because nobody has the balls to see any of my shows.
Interviewer: Oh yeah.
GG: I mean, if you’ve seen any of my shows, you will see me leaving covered with blood or whatever you know. I’ve broken my own bones on stage. The people that are in Boston, they’re saying this shit about me. They’ve obviously never seen me. Girls like Lisa or [inaudible] I don’t even want to mention her name, who supposedly was my girlfriend, met with me once, and she wrote this Rape GG Record or something, and I mean the girl doesn’t know me. I mean, I tried to rape her in New York City and she didn’t want anything to do with it. I mean that tells you how real that situation is. The bottom line is, if I say I’m going to kill myself in 1990, I’m going to do it. If you believe in something strong enough, then you should be willing to die for it. You know, we’re still out there travelling in a fucking truck still making 160 dollars a show 50 bucks some nights I mean we’re not like Big Black or Sonic Youth making all this money. We’re riding in a truck with no brakes, you know playing for peanut butter sandwiches. So you got to believe that what I’m doing. I mean when I get up on stage and break bones and go to the hospital covered with blood and I’m making 60 bucks a night. I mean figure it out, figure it out for yourself. [Interviewer laughter] It’s fucking reality, it’s not anything but.
Interviewer: Okay, now you said earlier that you haven’t played here in a long time. I guess the last time, this summer one of the guys in the band like urinated on stage or something, so then you get thrown out of the club.
GG: We’ve just never done good in Boston.
Interviewer: How about that Take It show back in the early 80’s remember that one?
GG: Yeah i think the last show we ever did in boston is probably like 1981, and I started out in 1976 actually with my brother. We were like the first two that got the Jabbers together.
Interviewer: That was in New Hampshire right?
GG: Yeah, that was in New Hampshire and then he moved to Boston to play with his band, and I kept my band going. The thing is though when we started it out with the intention of maybe staying together a year and coming to Boston and just fucking up everybody’s good times. Coming in and destroying all the clubs, I mean destruction is I mean a good time. We didn’t think that we’d be together for much more than a year and a half. We just wanted to come up going to the clubs that we hated and destroy them. After that we’d break up and figured if we can do it in one city, we could take over the world.
Interviewer: Okay I got a question, back in New Hampshire I mean you’re the only one, so far as I know, the only..
GG: The only…
Interviewer: …the only punk rock, not even punk rock, just guy doing anything.
GG: I don’t even know. I don’t even consider it New Hampshire anymore. I’m the only one doing anything anywher. I mean you got a bands talking about it, you got heavy metal bands going out headbanging thing. When I head bang on stage, I bash my fucking head right through the goddamn floor. I mean, that to me is the real thing, and I just see all these bands talking a dangerous thing but nobody’s doing it. When I go out on stage, it’s going to happen.
Interviewer: Okay now. Let me explain again we’re talking with GG Allin, and he’s going to be reading from his book here, well, he might be reading, see I’m not sure…
GG: Well, I’m kind of reading and I’m kind of going off on the audience — whatever I see fit to do at the time.
Interviewer: You’re going to improvise then.
GG: Yeah, pretty much, but it all comes from my head. I mean the stuff that I have written in that book is like, well, you got to read it, there will be some there tonight. You know I have just been writing. I go on the road, I write. Because I got to get this out of me, because when I go up on stage, I just like blow up and explode, and people get hurt, and it’s great.
Interviewer: It is.
GG: You know the thing is when I signed with Homestead everybody got the impression that I was going to take the route that all the homestead bands take but they didn’t realize that you know, I’ve been doing this for so fucking long, there is no way I would sell out. As a matter of fact, I’m going the complete opposite of all the bands at Homestead. I’m just trying to see how far I can go, how much trouble i can get into. I’ve got seven warrants on me now in the country, and I got a couple of felonies. So I’m just like running around kind of avoiding a [lar?, inaudible]. If they want to arrest me fine, because I’m willing to go to jail, and I’m willing to die for what I believe in. So if the cops want to come and take me out and arrest me for a show, for assault or whatever they want to get me for — attempted rape. It doesn’t matter because, fuck it, at least I’ll have a place to stay and you know.
Interviewer: Good food.
GG: Right, well the food ain’t good but compared to what we’ve been living on in this tour. Yeah actually the food would probably be pretty good. The underground bands now seem to be taking the corporate route of trying to get on big labels, and I mean I just cannot see that, and I won’t see it in what I do. It just pisses me off to think that bands are so overrated, and you got people like me that are actually fucking dying for it and people are, especially people in Boston have this fucking lame point of view of what I’m all about, and the people won’t even come out and see me when I play. They’ll sit there and say, GG’s crying “wolf” or GG’s not real. When this tour is over, it’s not like I’m going to go home and change my clothes, or the dog collar’s going to come off. “He’s going to start drinking less or do less drugs.” When I get off the road, it’s the same that it is when I’m on the road. It’s like fucking reality on and off stage.
Interviewer: So do you still live in New Hampshire?
GG: No, no, fuck no. I got out of there. I’m living in Chicago.
Interviewer: You’re living in Chicago now?
GG: I’ve been in Chicago for eight months and I was a living on the east coast for eight years, I’ve done more shows in the last eight months than I’ve done up here in the last eight years.
Interviewer: Oh so it’s an East coast thing
GG: You know, Boston has never been a GG territory so I just wanted to come back and do this show for my revenge.
Interviewer: Alright now, if you, we want to see GG tonight, he’s going to have his book, “Murder in Society” and all that stuff. Primal Plunge tonight along with Jeri Cain Rossi who is going to be reading some stuff from her book with the “Criminal Kiss.” She’ll be signing that too and the phenomenal Nick Zedd. Thanks for coming down GG.
GG: Yeah, we’ll see you tonight maybe.
Interviewer: Yeah. Maybe.
Background recording [guessing transcript]: Fuck off! I said that to say, have a wonderful fucking life. [applause and screams] Allin!